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Natural gas drillers target US truck, bus market

Mercury News -- SCRANTON, Pa. -- If the trash truck or bus rolling down your street seems a little quieter these days, you're not imagining things. It's probably running on natural gas.

Surging gas production has led the drilling industry to seek out new markets for its product, and energy companies, increasingly, are setting their sights on the transportation sector.

Touting natural gas as a cheaper, cleaner-burning alternative to gasoline and diesel, drillers, public utilities and government officials are trying to boost demand for natural gas buses, taxis, shuttles, delivery trucks and heavy-duty work vehicles of all sorts, while simultaneously encouraging development of the fueling infrastructure that will be needed to keep them running.

The economics are compelling. Natural gas costs

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Submitted Nov 29, 2012 By: aservant

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remay Champion Author Houston Posts:7,078 Points:2,143,965 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 6:41:25 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Yes! It makes sense to use more abundant resources for the real "hogs" of fuel...
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,143 Points:580,215 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 12:22:29 AM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse i still think all new vehicles shoul dbe made to run off of at least three power/fuel/energy sources when needed. say for exaample liquified me-thane as the main source,naturla gas as the secondary and electric generated from the brake system for an emergency. blah blah blah means but all these corprations will only push one instead of all to be used.all because of greed or stupidity.
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,410 Points:2,294,315 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 12:00:12 AM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse good market for natural gas
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,181 Points:866,235 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:59:47 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse Any port in a storm.
MacDad614 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,084 Points:1,200,250 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:57:55 PM Ignore MacDad614 Report Abuse Quieter? NOT!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,446 Points:1,558,085 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:55:42 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse There is nothing new here. We had buses and cabs and delivery vehicles running on natural gas 15 years ago and it did not work out well for business and now our filling stations have all closed down because industry found out that natural gas is not a good or reliable vehicle fuel and especially during the colder months of the year. For heating homes and businesses it is great but not in vehicles.
HoBuddy2012 Sophomore Author Toronto Posts:161 Points:174,550 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:54:01 PM Ignore HoBuddy2012 Report Abuse good
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,718,475 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:53:29 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse Whatever will help us out. Let's do it.
Kawibiker Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,221 Points:215,465 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:53:29 PM Ignore Kawibiker Report Abuse everyone will most likely pay
nztyraider Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,322 Points:716,955 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:53:29 PM Ignore nztyraider Report Abuse Make them rich.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,745 Points:3,519,480 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:45:54 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Whatever. That doesn't impress me.
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,332 Points:1,333,645 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:44:09 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Great
movietracker All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:695 Points:162,790 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:43:34 PM Ignore movietracker Report Abuse Yet consumers will pay for this
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,143 Points:580,215 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:41:04 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse and? guess who is going to pay for all these new upgraded natural gas vehicinals. : ) you /me/U.S.....exactly their trying to create a monopoly and the gov'ment is helping them do it.......in the end your heating bills will be skyrocketing as they make excuse after excuse to increase fees for the same reasons big earl is doing right now.plants shutting down,break downs in production,drop in supplies,so and so on.retrofitting supply lines,upgrading supply lines,storage facilities that are old being replaced. blah blah blah means they are not doing it for the welfare(just for out health) of U.S. all.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:39:18 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse git r done
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,301 Points:1,956,230 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:35:33 PM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse I'm waiting for affordable hydrogen fuel cells.
Palantas All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:805 Points:425,985 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:34:46 PM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse Killer.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,057 Points:1,601,705 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:34:23 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse we need to use more cng
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,754 Points:1,800,345 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:29:27 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse I saw a delivery truck the other day - big sign on side said it was powered by natural gas. It is happening. I hope prices don't spike and make it unaffordable.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,623 Points:1,739,410 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:29:01 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse The drillers are targeting consumers too?
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:26:27 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse it will take time.
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,222 Points:1,417,740 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:23:49 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse This makes a lot of sense. EVs are not ready for prime time. CNG can be the interim solution.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,817 Points:664,910 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:23:37 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse NG is good for fleet-type vehicles.
southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,736 Points:714,900 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:20:45 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse dhan for cheap gas
bojiway1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,190 Points:506,635 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:20:15 PM Ignore bojiway1 Report Abuse Not a bad idea
Lizzylou Champion Author Stockton Posts:8,818 Points:2,357,285 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:19:15 PM Ignore Lizzylou Report Abuse YES they are noisy aren't they???
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,910 Points:1,928,350 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:18:52 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse The only factory-made, natural gas-powered passenger car available to U.S. consumers is the Honda Civic Natural Gas. While Honda expects sales to top 2,000 this year, that's a fraction of the number of gasoline-powered Civics it moves in a single month." There are other vehicles being added to the Honda Civic GX that burn natural gas. Chrysler offered up the Dodge Ram 2500 pick up truck supposed to be out in July didn't get offered to the public until fall. There is also a Silverado I understand, a Chevrolet by GM. Build the vehicles and the stations will follow. You can't expect a station to go in business before there is a demand for their survices. I visited a Chrysler dealer to see their Dodge Ram pick up and they didn't have one or any literature to show me. How long does it take?
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,898 Points:859,075 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:15:29 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse Great Idea.
The3rd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,003 Points:838,075 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:14:17 PM Ignore The3rd Report Abuse ok
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,212 Points:2,497,540 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:11:16 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse Only way to go better is to establish a hydrogen highway across the country the country to do even better.
Hugo40 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:7,764 Points:1,644,705 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:09:57 PM Ignore Hugo40 Report Abuse We would like to see more.
Wildman14 Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,720 Points:843,980 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:09:29 PM Ignore Wildman14 Report Abuse Wow. Buses in the DC are used to run on CNG ten to fifteen years ago. wonder what happened to all of them?
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,944 Points:1,871,150 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:09:25 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse It is happening in our company right now.
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,920 Points:845,610 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:08:58 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Hmmm...
hcivic Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,994 Points:2,293,415 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:07:25 PM Ignore hcivic Report Abuse its the way to go
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BrucePen Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,737 Points:1,388,565 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:04:39 PM Ignore BrucePen Report Abuse Good news.
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,705 Points:1,539,830 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:04:09 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse ok
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,223 Points:897,060 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:02:13 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse Ft. Worth has had CNG city buses since 1990, don't know why more fleets don't use CNG.
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:10,268 Points:2,347,130 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 11:00:50 PM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse What's the ROI?
BurkeDevlin Veteran Author Maine Posts:417 Points:111,500 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:59:34 PM Ignore BurkeDevlin Report Abuse Thanks
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,445 Points:546,325 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:59:19 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Smart move. I hope they pass on some savings to their customers.
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,275 Points:1,728,805 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:59:07 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse I think this is a good idea
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,139 Points:1,149,380 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:57:59 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse A good place to start.
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,271 Points:1,515,555 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:57:52 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Go for it, natural gas is best for fleet vehicles
Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,859 Points:384,315 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:56:08 PM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse Best place to start.
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:9,082 Points:2,104,885 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:53:22 PM Ignore Marson Report Abuse More and more natural gas is coming.
DaisysMomNC All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:959 Points:200,850 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:50:03 PM Ignore DaisysMomNC Report Abuse Sounds good
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,857 Points:442,190 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 10:49:59 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse they are out there