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Japan's Future -- Fossil or Nuclear?

Forbes -- How will Japan meet its energy demands in the next two decades? There are two short-term choices: 1) decommission all nuclear plants and replace them with new fossil fuel plants, or 2) restart the nuclear fleet and upgrade their capacity to replace the lost capacity of the Fukushima plants. There are some variations on these two, e.g., shut down only the oldest plants (twelve pre-date 1980), build a few new gas plants, or adjust the particular mix of coal versus gas, but the economic and environmental costs of these two paths are vastly different.

Japan had planned to increase renewables, increase energy efficiency and replace old nuclear plants with new ones, but this is now shelved in the aftermath of the tsunami. The problem is that Japan has no significant energy resources.

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Submitted Jul 30, 2012 By: Mudsprings

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,623 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 5:57:42 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse reduce, reuse, recycle and waste less overall.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,963 Points:2,117,390 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2012 6:40:58 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Hmmmm ... title of the post is certainly DIFFERENT than the article! "Japan Would Be Crazy Not To Refocus On Nuclear"
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Tacodan Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,314 Points:653,360 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 10:20:26 PM Ignore Tacodan Report Abuse nuk
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,550 Points:1,786,600 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 7:17:23 PM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) has proven time and again that they can't be trusted.
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:328,585 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 2:39:40 PM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Excellent article.
bigt61 All-Star Author Virginia Posts:652 Points:203,065 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 11:32:49 AM Ignore bigt61 Report Abuse Nukes are cheap, clean and safe. Fukushima was a one off occurrence - an old plant that should have been retired located in an extremely dangerous place. How many deaths from Fukushima? Zero. How many people die from natural gas explosions in their homes every year? Plenty - but we think nothing of using natural gas everywhere. Rooftop solar is more dangerous than nukes. Deaths by Energy Source "Last year's Fukushima nuclear disaster has not led to any deaths or illnesses from radiation so far, but has caused social and psychological problems, UN radiation experts say. Cancer rates will not rise significantly in Japan, according to interim findings by the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR). "The add-on effect of this radiation will be low and will not be observable scientifically," said Wolfgang Weiss, the German government radiation expert who heads the panel of scientists."
miser73 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,183 Points:241,340 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 11:00:22 AM Ignore miser73 Report Abuse They need to apply the lessons learned from Fukushima to tsunami-proof the rest of their nukes.
AlienBug All-Star Author Connecticut Posts:732 Points:218,035 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 9:59:43 AM Ignore AlienBug Report Abuse Nuclear is the way to go.
GetMaxCashBack Veteran Author Trenton Posts:386 Points:163,425 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 9:54:10 AM Ignore GetMaxCashBack Report Abuse Nuclear seems to be the best option for Japan.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,215 Points:871,400 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 8:46:10 AM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse Several alternatives, but nuclear could still be safe.
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:13,510 Points:2,395,980 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 8:03:34 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse Solar and wind could provide only a small part of Japan's energy needs. Since Japan needs to import essentially all their carbon-based energy, nuclear is just about the only logical source of base-load power.
photobuddy Champion Author Washington Posts:1,620 Points:370,255 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 8:02:21 AM Ignore photobuddy Report Abuse It look as if the choice that Japan makes will affect us all. I hope the future does not include an increase of fossil fuels. Lets keep this rock we live on cool.
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