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Federal spending on clean energy falls short on jobs, but wind and solar advance

The Kansas City Star -- WASHINGTON -- What has America gotten so far from President Barack Obama’s spending on clean energy, and has it been worth the cost?

The multibillion-dollar outlays of the past four years had equally big goals: putting people to work right away, but also future jobs in a growing global endeavor to cut pollution and the risks from climate disruption.

The federal spending has become an issue in the 2012 campaign. Republicans say the federal government squandered taxpayers’ money, whether it was on $27-a-gallon biofuels for a test of an aircraft carrier battle group last month, subsidies for renewable energy or the taxpayers’ loss of $535 million to the bankrupt solar manufacturer Solyndra.

Four years ago, the Democrats’ promises on clean energy were all about jobs. As Obama took office

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,671 Points:1,230,030 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 11:06:55 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Very inappropriate comments Blazer197. Have nothing to to do with the topic of this thread which is government spending, jobs, wind and solar! Actually nobody uses the term 'Commies' anymore except the old timers who are still fighting the Cold war....as there are so few of them left. You are out of step with the future.
carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:271,465 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 10:39:53 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse What we have gotten is more debt.
must87searcher Champion Author Maryland Posts:9,123 Points:1,808,245 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 5:45:54 PM Ignore must87searcher Report Abuse There are a lot of ups and downs with the ideas/theories that politics use. Sometimes the answers make are very effective and other times are level and some have negative effects as well. We just have too wait and see what will happen. Since these theories have are ups to so much question and argument, I stay out of it. Mistakes are always possible, and with politics, the changes can be at time high.
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:8,319 Points:1,259,470 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 4:25:28 PM Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse You are spending too much, you are spending too little, you should have put it here, no you should have put it there, etc. Monday morning quarterbacks are useless as teats on a boar hog. All the complaints are political B.S!
night_raider Rookie Author Tennessee Posts:28 Points:95,365 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 2:09:10 PM Ignore night_raider Report Abuse its not so much the government wasting the money as much as it is the companies that are taking the money and running. yes its partly the governments job to regulate that as good as possible but there really is no way to know what a company is ultimatly going to do with that money.
efwosu Veteran Author Columbus Posts:262 Points:97,505 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 1:58:20 PM Ignore efwosu Report Abuse The minute Romney is elected you will see the economy spike. The Clown in the WH hasn't a clue how the economy works, and furthermore, doesn't care. Hey Snappy, what barricades were there when your libtards controlled both Congress and the WH?
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,639 Points:279,280 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 1:47:36 PM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse It is hard to progress down a road littered with republican barricades.
fatboy97 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,619 Points:1,734,900 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 1:30:25 PM Ignore fatboy97 Report Abuse "What has America gotten so far from President Barack Obama’s spending"... a Country that has over spent, and much farther in debt!!! We need a CHANGE in November!!!!
GatorGuy Champion Author Columbia Posts:2,284 Points:1,226,490 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 1:02:08 PM Ignore GatorGuy Report Abuse NoBama doesn't have a clue.
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,232 Points:2,651,810 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:38:03 PM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse Obama’s spending on clean energy has HURT the economy, rather than helping it as promised. He's got it backwards. We need to improve the economy, then perhaps we could afford some of the new technologies!
Holly123 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,337 Points:817,685 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:28:33 PM Ignore Holly123 Report Abuse Just wrong ....
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:10,555 Points:1,759,235 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:24:16 PM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse Conservation is a big thing we ALL need to do, especially the President. Air Force 1 uses a LOT of petroleum Jet fuel. The president should be LEADING by example. Instead of Flying some place to give a speech, why not simply do a web video instead! It would be nice if the politicians would join the 21st century!
mickealo Champion Author Spokane Posts:6,302 Points:2,172,135 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:15:14 PM Ignore mickealo Report Abuse well government in busness is just wrong
curlypooh Champion Author New Jersey Posts:11,333 Points:2,033,495 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:12:15 PM Ignore curlypooh Report Abuse OBOMBUS is full of BS and hot air. Give him 4 more years to fly around and do more of nothing. That's what the new slogan "FORWARD" means. Forward into oblivion!
seahawks Champion Author Washington Posts:3,331 Points:1,985,250 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:08:49 PM Ignore seahawks Report Abuse tax payer'smoney at work again!!!
repeater1 Champion Author Topeka Posts:8,442 Points:2,393,500 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:08:48 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Politics as usual.
GasSpy007 Champion Author New York City Posts:1,963 Points:516,025 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:07:28 PM Ignore GasSpy007 Report Abuse yawn
arcaneradio Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,646 Points:514,940 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:07:13 PM Ignore arcaneradio Report Abuse Obama has spent the majority of the stimulus outside this country. It has done nothing to create jobs here, and most of the solar companies he bankrolled are bankrupt. He is determined to destroy our economy.
babyjudy Champion Author Tucson Posts:2,879 Points:589,435 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:07:03 PM Ignore babyjudy Report Abuse Why is this any different than anything coming out of DC?
bikechuck Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:7,153 Points:2,090,820 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:06:23 PM Ignore bikechuck Report Abuse We have 'jumped the gun' on clean energy, in the future it will be needed but this premature move has created economic problems and a huge debt.
svspyda Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,753 Points:355,960 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:06:14 PM Ignore svspyda Report Abuse yes.
planoiceman Champion Author Dallas Posts:3,332 Points:499,675 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:03:30 PM Ignore planoiceman Report Abuse how many $Billions have been wasted on Obama cronyism?
CAroadrunner101 Champion Author California Posts:1,967 Points:1,343,125 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:03:14 PM Ignore CAroadrunner101 Report Abuse hmmm...
ciimike Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,638 Points:1,069,560 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:02:35 PM Ignore ciimike Report Abuse In a nutshell, majority of spending has been wasted on inefficient fuel processes.
rhughes1691 Sophomore Author Seattle Posts:105 Points:282,410 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:00:46 PM Ignore rhughes1691 Report Abuse not so much news as commentary, which is fine, but so what?
ScottTee Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,532 Points:1,091,295 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:00:41 PM Ignore ScottTee Report Abuse the federal government wastes ALL our money, not just what is spent on clean energy.
YodaON Champion Author Ottawa Posts:3,061 Points:806,515 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 12:00:15 PM Ignore YodaON Report Abuse ok
bullfrog42 All-Star Author Texas Posts:861 Points:176,415 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:55:54 AM Ignore bullfrog42 Report Abuse OK
DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,432 Points:1,546,645 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:53:40 AM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse The issue of the military using biofuels is to test their use and to ensure they are safe...no one is forceing the military to switch to a fuel that currently costs $27/gal...this will ensure the military has the flexibility to use it in the future.
tes283 All-Star Author Tampa Posts:865 Points:368,850 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:50:16 AM Ignore tes283 Report Abuse "This article sounds like it was paid for by the Obama Re-election Campaign, doesn't it?" yup. I believe in the alternate fuels but only a small part of the increase in the budget was for those fuels.
Car54BC08 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:4,394 Points:1,538,040 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:46:58 AM Ignore Car54BC08 Report Abuse They have just wasted tax payer's money
NotmeuQc Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,761 Points:1,160,150 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:46:50 AM Ignore NotmeuQc Report Abuse I agree with CPayZombie.
mackconsult Champion Author Portland Posts:5,374 Points:868,410 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:46:31 AM Ignore mackconsult Report Abuse Not good
lll4386 Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,963 Points:609,000 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:45:49 AM Ignore lll4386 Report Abuse Nobama
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,795 Points:795,800 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:45:09 AM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse Arizona needs to give more tax credits for solar energy
Gascapade Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,157 Points:502,635 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:43:55 AM Ignore Gascapade Report Abuse Well then, let's all continue to be complete and utter imbeciles and continue to be lackeys of the corrupt, colluded, rampantly speculated, and price manipulated crude oil market.....
bluebird1 Champion Author Toronto Posts:15,874 Points:3,134,850 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:43:27 AM Ignore bluebird1 Report Abuse Did anyone really believe the jobs part of this????
91Hilux Champion Author New Haven Posts:2,262 Points:707,445 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:43:01 AM Ignore 91Hilux Report Abuse I agree, post political opinions where people actually want to hear/see them. (not here). I don't agree with the government propping up industries with our tax dollars when they can't survive on their own merit.
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,220 Points:1,683,315 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:42:45 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse bicycler -- "Post politicl opinion and wishes elsewhere, please" Why? The article is about Obama and his policies.
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:14,815 Points:2,598,445 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:40:43 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse Blazer197; Post politicl opinion and wishes elsewhere, please I do hope that Solar and wind continue to advance [Edited by: bicycler at 8/13/2012 11:44:09 AM EST]
FedupwithGreed All-Star Author Victoria Posts:733 Points:175,975 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:40:37 AM Ignore FedupwithGreed Report Abuse OK
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,220 Points:1,683,315 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:40:08 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse "Has it been worth the cost?" The EPA, under federal guidelines, is forcing power companies to invest in expensive "green" energies. This forces the power companies to increase rates to all customers in order to pay for the mandate. Thanks to the Obamanation, I am now pay an average of $370 per month. [Edited by: CPayZombie at 8/13/2012 11:41:13 AM EST]
Blazer197 Champion Author New Haven Posts:3,240 Points:615,150 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:37:35 AM Ignore Blazer197 Report Abuse Vote Obummer and his gang of commies out in November.
chyguy3 Champion Author Wyoming Posts:2,855 Points:860,590 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:37:12 AM Ignore chyguy3 Report Abuse WOW, what a winner. NOT!!!!!!!!!!
LuthierKS Champion Author Wichita Posts:3,908 Points:757,630 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:36:59 AM Ignore LuthierKS Report Abuse If the government has to subsidize an entire industry that is a sure sign that industry is not needed at this time.
VernonOR Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,018 Points:758,980 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:36:56 AM Ignore VernonOR Report Abuse Wasteful spending of taxpayers money when it comes to solar manufacturing.
gasper Champion Author Edmonton Posts:4,585 Points:1,393,810 Joined:Mar 2002	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:35:57 AM Ignore gasper Report Abuse The time for change is coming in November do not forget to vote.
kelly1016 Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,953 Points:353,065 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:35:30 AM Ignore kelly1016 Report Abuse History will show that investments in solar and wind were needed and wise investments
checkitnow Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,131 Points:595,725 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:33:57 AM Ignore checkitnow Report Abuse this is one of the main reasons obummer must lose in the fall... despite evidence of failure he will not repudiate the waste of billions of dollars
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,161 Points:1,412,405 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 11:33:48 AM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse How many so called green companies went belly up? Quite a few number went belly up. This writer is nothing but a shill for "green" companies.