heydano67

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 1:06:46 PM
Along with conservation, it is a good trend
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 12:19:25 AM
Donatelo: I want to see that car in production first. And under strain of real life conditions. It's a good idea though.
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Donatelo

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 11:06:52 AM
right direction. though france is making a car that runs on compressed air, we need to step up our innovation.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 6:10:17 AM
it's a good start, however, 2007 was the year before the economic disaster started. That begs the question, how much was due to the economy and how much was due to improvements in vehicles' mileage and driver habits?
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roadrunnerMO

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 5:37:13 AM
Sounds like a great direction to go.
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Ray_10589

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New York
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 1:12:00 AM
very good ....
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benjy

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:28:43 PM
along time coming...
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Fitwit

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:28:30 PM
I haven't checked yet but I am sure I can beat 24.1 mpg
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bston

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:32:38 PM
MPG should improve with each decade of vehicle technology improvements.
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clpassenubye

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:01:14 PM
This is definitely a positive trend and I hope that it continues.
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kelly1016

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 2:52:20 PM
Great keep it going
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 1:38:38 PM
Higher vehicle MPG, Higher fuel costs, Gasoline infected with Ethanol, Higher vehicle costs, Lighter vehicles using composites and plastics, Vehicle manufacturers lying about their vehicle MPG *making it higher than what it really is, a Bad economy so Not as many people are working so Less jobs and Less driving, Sneeky forcing EV's and Inbreds onto the population - Average fuel economy of purchased cars hits record high? Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
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Grandpa297

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 1:37:38 PM
Any stats on the fuel mileage of stolen cars?
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Rhino8of8

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 1:19:24 PM
Is this higher average adjusted for the 'inflated' ratings that car companies are getting caught on now?
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blupupher

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 1:10:42 PM
that is a good thing.
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DeserTBoB

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 12:33:34 PM
"The only changes needed to to avoid foreign oil imports is to drill baby drill now and here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " ---Cheepo
I didn't know that "Sarah Plain and Stupid" lived in Tampa.
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matthwbar

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 12:14:23 PM
Is that an accurate measure...?
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Cheepo

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:55:22 AM
The only changes needed to to avoid foreign oil imports is to drill baby drill now and here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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livedream

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:54:24 AM
Better fuel economy could be part of the reason Big Oil has been keeping prices high this past year.
Greed will not let them keep prices reasonable for us because it would mean less profit for them. It's a no-win for us -- And more profit for Big Oil.
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vjs3

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Denver
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:53:20 AM
No sure that I believe the posted mpg in light of recent findings. I still stick with the thought that the averages are just that - averages.
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jadeusa

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:52:54 AM
Still don't think that the US is making all of the needed changes to avoid foreign oil in the present nor the near future.
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bobsalwaysmt

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:50:36 AM
Yesterday's post?
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colaguy

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:50:09 AM
if they are accurate, but who really knows!
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kelly1016

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:49:53 AM
By 2020 the US will be a net exported of Crude as well as refined product. This is somewhat accomplished by conservation.
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fire@53

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:49:50 AM
Let's hope so.
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Lologogo

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:48:24 AM
Did they figure in the incorrect figures put out by Kia? And 24 mpg isn't that great, really.
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WVUtailgater

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:48:21 AM
good
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hibsaw

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:47:44 AM
Those numbers will continue to rise. That's good.
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gasper

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:46:19 AM
Good news?
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sciotosix

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:41:33 AM
That's a good trend.
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indyjim

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:41:23 AM
Since the EPA isn't monitoring the mpg properly, how can we believe the numbers?
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myambro

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:39:37 AM
"bigoilscamsus" conveniently forgets that Big Oil is investigated every other year and found to be following the law. Laws that were passed by the Politicians that were well paid by big oil to pass those laws. So, until we can get rid of those politicians AND change the rules so that politicians work for the people rather than unions, special interests, and corporations there will be no change.
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katmandue

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:39:00 AM
But is it real.
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dad2two

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:38:59 AM
The only problem is how much these improvements are costing consumers.
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McMutt

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:38:35 AM
That's good.
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nskmda

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:38:32 AM
still in the top?
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mackconsult

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Portland
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:38:19 AM
about time
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dieselme2011

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:38:10 AM
Bought a new vehicle this year and sure notice the difference between trips to the gas station.
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truvoice1

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:38:01 AM
Lets hope that more reasonable heads prevail and roll back Obama's 35 mpg mandate which the auto makers will have difficulty reaching, even with hybrids and smaller vehicles.
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napermike79

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:34:29 AM
if the MPG numbers are real...
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q2

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:33:25 AM
it should be double that our old heavy cars made that kind of mileage
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spmaudio

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:32:33 AM
@ WILDCAT112: Tell me about it. It seems like there are people here on GB who could win the lottery jackpot and still complain about paying taxes on it!
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cheli2010

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:30:52 AM
neato
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WILDCAT112

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:28:47 AM
Something else for everybody to complian about .
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bigoilscamsus

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:27:19 AM
Price fixing is illegal but day in and day out Big Oil sets the price of gasoline right in front of God and man! This must stop by regulating the entire petroleum industry! Congress needs to hear the cry of the people and intervene before our country goes further into recession and then into DEPRESSION!
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:27:07 AM
Zoom, Zoom...
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SpankyMI

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:26:27 AM
Good news.
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spotterFL

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Florida
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:26:13 AM
Still can't sell electric vehicles because of high prices and range of miles.
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:25:57 AM
Old news & as expected. But did it really given the problems found with testing (ie. lack of independent testing)???
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yelobus

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:25:23 AM
Good. Approaching my 2008 Ranger: 31 mpg all the time.
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