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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2011 10:01:19 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse Often when there’s a possibility of something being built somewhere, someone inevitably opposes the idea and exercises his or her Constitutional rights to oppose it, protest it, or even prop up a Hollywood actress to make some noise too. That’s democracy and it’s a healthy part of the process. But to the relief of many folks in S. Dakota and neighboring states, the paparazzi have yet to descend on Sioux Falls and even if they did, they’d have another 60 miles to go to reach Union County. So logistics make it no match for the media grandstanding associated with a more controversial oil project, the Keystone XL pipeline. Absent are the protest theatrics that might otherwise disrupt the work in Union County, SD that many... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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Often when there’s a possibility of something being built somewhere, someone inevitably opposes the idea and exercises his or her Constitutional rights to oppose it, protest it, or even prop up a Hollywood actress to make some noise too. That’s democracy and it’s a healthy part of the process.

But to the relief of many folks in S. Dakota and neighboring states, the paparazzi have yet to descend on Sioux Falls and even if they did, they’d have another 60 miles to go to reach Union County. So logistics make it no match for the media grandstanding associated with a more controversial oil project, the Keystone XL pipeline. Absent are the protest theatrics that might otherwise disrupt the work in Union County, SD that many...

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KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,282 Points:641,005 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2011 10:58:44 PM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse How far under the Missouri will they build the pipeline? And Mr. Laskowski, your rosey blog didn't mention what the Sioux City paper said about the vote "....Laskoski wasn't around for the bitter 2008 refendum to rezone Union County farmland for the Hyperion site, a campaign which pitted neighbor against neighbor and even some relatives against relatives." Read more: http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/blogs/hyperion/article_13151c9a-fff8-11e0-aff7-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz1cVqUrxfK [Edited by: KAR120CSII at 11/1/2011 10:59:57 PM EST]
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,519 Points:443,250 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2011 4:16:46 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Go for it, South Dakota.
fsufan11 Veteran Author Jacksonville Posts:339 Points:149,780 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2011 2:44:21 PM Ignore fsufan11 Report Abuse Yes, finally some common sense, which has been absent from our lawmakers of recent times....
edgarCA Champion Author Oakland Posts:1,581 Points:241,770 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 12:35:56 PM Ignore edgarCA Report Abuse yawn.
puinsai808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,697 Points:754,030 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 9:45:50 AM Ignore puinsai808 Report Abuse Good news.
gudrench Champion Author Houston Posts:2,623 Points:529,990 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 8:14:19 AM Ignore gudrench Report Abuse ok
dsw56 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,374 Points:574,990 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 4:44:30 AM Ignore dsw56 Report Abuse So right,RogerB.
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,227 Points:2,650,835 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 4:19:49 AM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse finally some common sense
DellDude2 Champion Author Nashville Posts:9,566 Points:2,148,485 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 3:39:20 AM Ignore DellDude2 Report Abuse Still showing yesterday's news in the Top 5? Must have been a slow news night!
lgwhitlock Champion Author Chico Posts:7,520 Points:1,712,220 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 3:28:24 AM Ignore lgwhitlock Report Abuse Hopefully this gets sorted out without all the mess that has been part of the Keystone XL pipeline...
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:8,013 Points:1,800,545 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 3:27:56 AM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse I've written my critters in congress and obama -- build the darn keystone pipeline to South Dakota and save at least a 1000 miles. This is so freakin' stupid. Obviously, the oil companies figure they will make more money moving the oil to texas, even though they will be spending a few extra billion to do it.
tampacrvdriver Champion Author Tampa Posts:3,465 Points:738,015 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 3:15:24 AM Ignore tampacrvdriver Report Abuse I hope it's refined.
findcheap Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:9,732 Points:2,036,600 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 3:15:18 AM Ignore findcheap Report Abuse what an opinionated article. equating paparazzi with mainstream media
djgunrunner Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:10,247 Points:2,375,330 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 3:06:08 AM Ignore djgunrunner Report Abuse Will this refinery be big enough and close enough to handle crude from the Bakken field also?
themaninthehat Champion Author New Orleans Posts:1,824 Points:472,265 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 3:00:07 AM Ignore themaninthehat Report Abuse @CPGas1815 gets the Big Picture The solution is to eliminate the reason for this site or change its mission get off oil hydrogen cells and solar
bcok Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,176 Points:1,554,545 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:58:41 AM Ignore bcok Report Abuse Some jobs are there.
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:3,886 Points:364,140 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:56:52 AM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse CPGas1815 - Right. Let's all stop buying cars so that Michigan dries up and blows away.
dave12 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,232 Points:1,861,965 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:53:15 AM Ignore dave12 Report Abuse Twelve years for something you would think would take about a year to make!
EcoVore Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,538 Points:728,775 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:39:35 AM Ignore EcoVore Report Abuse Dakota's having low unemployment for a reason.
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,604 Points:1,761,590 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:35:57 AM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse So long as we still use oil we need refineries and it would be better to have one in the Dakotas and decrease the need of very long pipelines. Ahd product refined there is less likely to be exported!
CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,034 Points:1,101,695 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:33:08 AM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse I suspect sometime in the not too distant future we will be reading a news article that reports "South Dakota Refinery is cited for causing a major oil spill." What South Dakota should have done was to announce they were investing in renewable energy. The sooner we server our dependence on Crude oil to power our vehicles and industry the sooner we will permanently sever the strangle hold the Global Oil Cartel now enjoys over each and every gasoline consumer around the globe.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,236 Points:1,378,645 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:32:21 AM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Even if we produce more oil & refine more It won't help much unless they get rid of speculators, remove US commodities including Oil & petroleum, from the European stock market, Stop exporting US oil & petroleum overseas.
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,608 Points:739,130 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:31:58 AM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse We have more oil here in the U.S. then anyone lets on. We need to use it and bring the prices way down.
Retowered Champion Author Colorado Posts:8,712 Points:2,712,140 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:31:45 AM Ignore Retowered Report Abuse That sounds good.
UseLessGasFolks Champion Author Iowa Posts:5,581 Points:1,322,575 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:18:40 AM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse We have enough if we just grow up and conserve.
gamalerin Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,877 Points:1,019,035 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:17:10 AM Ignore gamalerin Report Abuse I like that.
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,562 Points:489,725 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:13:22 AM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse Good deal. Maybe it will bring the upper Midwest fuel prices down a bit? A big maybe right?
ntass1 Champion Author Edmonton Posts:3,930 Points:754,750 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:02:59 AM Ignore ntass1 Report Abuse ok
bobdec Champion Author Miami Posts:9,099 Points:1,796,545 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 2:02:20 AM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse This is good
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,417 Points:1,926,910 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:59:41 AM Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse That's good.
GAS1251 Champion Author Texas Posts:5,288 Points:1,652,935 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:57:04 AM Ignore GAS1251 Report Abuse Sneak it in under the radar.
v8gazguzler Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,133 Points:910,735 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:56:11 AM Ignore v8gazguzler Report Abuse Hire 50,000 workers, work 3 shifts, 24/7 and it will be built in a year, instead of 6
JagXKR Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,288 Points:1,117,240 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:51:21 AM Ignore JagXKR Report Abuse Finally another long awaited refinery. But still long awaited as it won't be completed for 6 more years at the earliest.
Road-Runner Champion Author Denver Posts:7,067 Points:1,910,115 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:50:42 AM Ignore Road-Runner Report Abuse Good for S Dakota. One NEW refinery is a start. The USA needs dozens of new refineries to break this particular bottleneck in keeping prices sky high, for some forty years, not just for gasoline and diesel but for all types of petroleum products, and for prices to begin coming down to reasonable levels.
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,075 Points:1,534,895 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:48:32 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . Produce it here keep it here..."Hyperion says there are no plans to export refined products"
lawsondawg Rookie Author Georgia Posts:23 Points:89,860 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:48:15 AM Ignore lawsondawg Report Abuse I've been telling my friends how long it has been since a refinery was built in the U.S. and they didn't believe it. Thanks to this article and other resources I've shared with them, they now know the truth.
blueBMW480 Champion Author Nashville Posts:818,391 Points:867,465 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:41:17 AM Ignore blueBMW480 Report Abuse Great
hubcapLA Champion Author Louisiana Posts:3,905 Points:940,435 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:38:31 AM Ignore hubcapLA Report Abuse Not only do we need new refineries, we need more drilling and pipelines
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,523 Points:207,740 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:37:05 AM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse I agree also
abacus44 Champion Author Toms River Posts:3,600 Points:773,040 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:36:38 AM Ignore abacus44 Report Abuse Good News.
dropitMS Veteran Author Jackson Posts:293 Points:69,375 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:32:00 AM Ignore dropitMS Report Abuse I agree. We need a new refinery.
Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:7,212 Points:1,794,920 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:31:04 AM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse This is good news, and WalkingWV makes a good comment.
WalkingWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:3,754 Points:788,060 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:27:18 AM Ignore WalkingWV Report Abuse Wow, a new refinery?! And close to the oil supply?! Where did this blast of common sense come from?
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:7,124 Points:1,266,510 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:24:44 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Good news.
craigsf38 Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,848 Points:1,536,980 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:18:16 AM Ignore craigsf38 Report Abuse Good
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:15,064 Points:1,617,850 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:11:46 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse Just get started on it and get it done before hussien and regime, along with the greenie weenies move in and ruin things for America again.
kd5kpd Champion Author Texas Posts:3,872 Points:1,443,450 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:09:57 AM Ignore kd5kpd Report Abuse Great for them but it wont bring down fuel prices.
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:8,138 Points:1,719,450 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:08:56 AM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse This is a good thing. It's progress & it's moving FORWARD!!!
vikinglovesjesu Sophomore Author Asheville Posts:150 Points:50,380 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:08:24 AM Ignore vikinglovesjesu Report Abuse good
BJWI Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,549 Points:762,950 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 1:06:33 AM Ignore BJWI Report Abuse hope it helps bring down prices, but it is extremely doubtful.